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chellinoolmo

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Style Works can almost never exactly recreate instrument definitions (sounds) from the source to the target keyboard.
This is due to the fact that Style Works in practice using GM in the conversion process.
If you use a Yamaha keyboard, you have the ability to use XG.

Only very rarely will this be placed as Factory, which is ideal.

One thing is worth noting:
If a keyboard uses instrument definitions that differ too much from GM, the level will be too high or low,
the distortion increases dramatically, and that at worst harmonies are completely wrong.

The world's best example of this: Tyros models with their MegaVoices; and Tyros 3/4 is quite extreme.

The various manufacturers have developed their own versions of GM; which in my opinion makes conversions only more problematic.

They are as follows:

GS = Roland dedicated
XG = Yamaha dedicated
GM2 = Korg and others
GM = Ketron and others

The fact that Ketron is the only one of those that use the original standard - GM - is another significant explanation why just Ketron provides conversions with minimum problems.

However, I can see a solution to this problem:
If the manufacturer (or others) of GM can make a version that can match MegaVoices, the problem will largely be history.


Or:
Jørgen Sørensen (Joso) at Yamaha forum has already done exactly this what MIDI concern:
He has in all his genius made the program MIDI Mega Voice Cleaner, which substitutes Mega Voices with the best suited standard XG voice.
You can read more about this program here, and download it for free as well: http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/nomegainmidi/index.htm

If EMC had such application developers like him, would conversions have gone like a dream.
So maybe mr. Sørensen can help EMC; against the payment his work is appreciated ..?
#1 - December 23, 2014, 09:18:56 AM
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Re: <<< Worth knowing about conversions >>>
Can I remove MegaVoice in a Yamaha Style before doing the conversation?
Is it possible to rename the style into .mid, then run it through "Mega Voice Cleaner" and rename it back to .sty?
Or would it be possible to import the renamed .mid into Styleworks?

What steps do you recommend to convert a Tyros2 style?

Thanks!
#2 - May 27, 2015, 03:36:12 AM
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chellinoolmo

Re: <<< Worth knowing about conversions >>>
Can I remove MegaVoice in a Yamaha Style before doing the conversation?
Is is possible to rename the style into .mid, than run it through "Mega Voice Cleaner" and renam it back to .sty?
Or would it be possible to import the renamed .mid into Styleworks?

What steps do you recommend to convert a Tyros2 style?

Thanks!


Yes, you can remove MegaVoices before conversion, but this has no purpose, since Style Works reads the file with its original content.
I do not know if it is possible to rename into .mid then use Mega Voice Cleaner.
As I said: Style Works reads the native format, so you'll get an error message if you try to import a renamed .mid as midi.
To convert Tyros2: Load and convert as single file - then you can check every style; how it sounds. Modifications prior to this has no purpose,
and must be done after conversion, on the keyboard.

This is my experience - but it is possible that what you ask for can be done - probably this is possible - but this may be very laborious, and require the use of multiple applications.
Jososoft has many applications that can change the most, but my experience is that these can not be utilized, when a Yamaha style are being converted to another brand.
#3 - May 27, 2015, 05:17:14 AM
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